[breed-away] ok everyone be patient, we just waiting for the guys to rejing :) sNAK3^RP i wonder how many ppl are not using there normal nicks??? [breed-away] Ok Charig Hi Everyone [breed-away] I Would like to welcome Francis Charig and Fleecy Moss to the room [breed-away] plus other members of Tao group watching :) sNAK3^RP welcome to amigagames [breed-away] and its nice to see Cooksey wont be joining us hehe [breed-away] Are you ready to get started Francis? DD--i_c_u :D situation Here we go... Charig breed-away:re Cooksey - seconded Jagge ja Senex 1) One thing "Amiga Aurora" (my suggestion for the new OS's name) MUST have: Screens - so how about Screens, Datatypes, FFS-support? 2) Why not calling the product family just "Amiga", i.e. "Amiga Aurora", "Amiga XYZ", etc.? GA Charig We will be working with Amiga, taking a close look at the existing features and making sure that the new system will have the same or greater functionality. Charig GA Netsplit^ when can we expect to be reaching for our checkbooks, to buy something new from u guys & when might it be. GA Charig Bill's in the room and Fleecy can't talk! :) Announcements on this will come when the product is ready to ship. No more hype! Charig GA Urizen Will you support hardware-accelerated OpenGL? GA Charig intent(TM) supports hardware accelerated 2D and 3D graphics. As for the 3D APIs that sit on top, we encourage all 3D APIs to be ported across. Have you heard of Renderware? :) Charig GA tOmAsH-BB What is the real cooperation level of TAO and Motorola? I mean, does Motorola want to use your (Amiga?) software, and vice versa? tOmAsH-BB GA Charig It is publicly known that Motorola is releasing connected appliances utilising Tao's software (e.g. Timeport P1088 smart phone, see announcement 8.1.00) Charig GA dreamstar Q: will Elate be used as the next generation OS of future Amigas? GA Charig Specifics on this will announced shortly. :) Charig GA Firebird^ Hello Mr. Charig, my feeling about Gateway 2000's (Old Amiga Inc.) plans for using Linux as the OS of the new machines is that it would be a mistake. It wouldn't be an Amiga, just a Linux box with the Amiga name slapped on it. I hope this isn't going to be planned. ;) Charig That was a statement! Charig GA Elektro fleecy: please describe the new amiga Computer(!) thnx :) GA Charig "It's lovely and cuddly" says Fleecy Charig GA amiga-news_d Lost my text. situation msg me when you find it sNAK3^RP :ell there be a Os4.0 chipset...GA JoeSchmo Howdy Charig If you mean, "a new chipset for a new Amiga" then the answer is that the new Amiga has been designed to be hardware independent, hence Tao. Charig This is why we are partnering together. Charig Also I want to add a couple of other points. sNAK3^RP :will we still have Os as such...GA Charig The main objective today is to correspond about intent(TM) rather than have extrapolations about the precise configurations of the new Amiga. Charig ga TheB What is the Amiga "history" that TAO has? It doesn't seem very comforting that you have to take a look at the Amiga to figure out what it's about. (As for Firebird's statement.. that's true of any new "Amiga".) And as for this 'hardware independent' Amiga.. is that like java? :) GA Charig Have you looked at our website to see what technology we offer? Charig GA amiga-news_d 1st question: TAO: It was reported you helped funding the Amiga buyout. How much of it was "your idea", means, are you tech supplier, partner, or even more? 2nd question: Will VP Code and/or Amiga documentation be freely available for the "just curious"? GA fleecy We talked to Tao when looking for partners and got so horny about each other that Tao dropped us some VC names and made introductions and recommendations about Amiga. [breed-away] Gaij!!!! Guest45753 Tao is our foundation supplier. Amiga will be providing all the support. Anyone who signs up to develop will have access to full APIs. Guest45753 GA Swarfega Apple's new OS X has a lot of it's GUI done with vectors, which allows easy scaling, rotating, etc. of pretty much anything on the screen. Will that sort of thing be possible with new Amigas (or is the OS extensible enough to allow people to write their own interfaces)? GA JoeSchmo fleecy's nick got switched..... fix needed. charig We are not intending to have matrix style transformations embedded in the lowest layers of the graphics subsystem as this inherently slows down all other graphics functions. charig Such vector type operations are available higher up. charig ...where they should be. charig Remember... elegance through simplicity and performance. charig GA dark4ces would there be any performance benefit to writing code in VP assembler rather than higher-level languages? GA NeRP^cF $#%@#$% server :) charig There will be the same benefit that writing an assembler over high level languages offers in any other environment. charig You trade off slightly higher development effort in order to gain tighter, faster code. charig Remember that writing in VP gives you the advantages of assembler but no portability drawback. charig GA sNAK3^RP monolog::rendering will be faster:)))) AmigaDragon (1) Will the new system (HDW or SW) have equivalent (or higher) filesystem support such as CrossDOS/CrossMAC including Windows longfilenames? (2) Fleecy, will we see, sometime in the not too distant future, AmigaOS (classic) Open source? GA fleecy Me and 4 of the dev team have been VP for 2 days now and it's nothing like traditional assembler, more like C with the crap bits taken out. You'll find out soon. Guest78547 Answer to AmigaDragon - Q1 - You can mimic multiple file systems + they also have their own high performance native file system. Guest78547 Amigadragon (2) - our lawyers are looking into it but it is a much more complicated web than anybody could guess. Guest78547 GA TheRiley if someone wanted to build an "Amiga"-desktop based on, say, the POP-standard, and use your new OS , would you support it (and if, how)? could the new OS run on phase5 Amirage for example? (ok, that's 2 questions, but they overlap so much that they are basically one :)) charig 1. Yes. 2. Bill was talking to Gerald Carda yesterday. :) charig GA HaXoR^ Mr Charig / Fleecy, is it just a coincidence this conference happening immediately before the transmeta cpu lauch(5pmGMT)? GA charig Yes. We are hardware independent. charig GA Cpt_Hbl^ How long has Amino/Amiga and Tao been co-operating ? We know all about Fleecy/Bill/Petro but how does Toa feel about Amiga community? GA [breed-away] Yup, it was supposed to happen yesterday..... charig We have a large amount of respect for the Amiga community which is why we have been working cooperatively with Bill and Fleecy for some months, determined to make this really happen. charig GA BJS The Time of Homecomputers of the 80's r over, i mean, what does a CHRP board with an strange OS with Amiga in common, other than the name, it's just marketing. and the things done from 1994 till now r only done for the existing userbase and they shrunk, how will u encourage others to buy amiga? charig By providing the best platform. charig GA Thy Do you plan to do advertising ? Considering that it should be worldwide, can you afford that ? To have the best machine is not enough if nobody knows that. GA charig Yes. We will be doing advertising (Tao and Amiga) with our partners. charig GA Senex How many developers are working currently on "Amiga Aurora" (i.e. the new OS <g>), and how many of them are from Amiga, how many from Tao? GA charig Amiga has a dozen engineers growing, Tao has 60 + plenty of blue chip partners. charig GA RUiNa Q: Please take this all as one general question about marketing. With consoles and settop boxes allowing more ability and connectivity, and with super low pc prices, do you feel we'll compete with these pricewise or are you moving towards some other newer market? we all know marketing was the original amiga downfall. is the marketing planned and being taken care of by pro's? GA charig Yes. We like to call them "hookers". charig PS Where's Cooksey? charig GA FryG_away Q:will there be any new updates for WB3.5 ? GA situation cooksey doesn't come on this channel any more ;) GuardianBOB he's sitting in #Amiga-3D. heh heh heh fleecy We have a transitional plan for the Classic that we will announce with our partners. fleecy GA Nico_Barbat_ Francis, Bill told on the press-conf. that you are an long-time Amiga-fan - in which effect could this be useful for the *developer* group? WHO is actually working on the new OS? GA NeRP^cF fleecy: I'm talking to him right now. My morning annoy-c0cksey routine. situation hey, there's nothing wrong with Cooksey, he's just a misunderstood bloke charig I'll take those in reverse order. charig We already have the foundation layer. I'm not going to discuss o/s specifics today. The entire Tao engineering staff is working on software which will be utilised by the Amiga community. charig Remember that it is not just that we are fans, we also have major Amiga engineering history at Tao. sNAK3^RP :n what year will we see the Adverts or price lists.amiga has NEVER died..GA SM0ocHiE ping plz charig This year. sNAK3^RP :) |MB| Hello. I am a convinced amigaist, but in what this new repurchase is it different from the precedents? How long will last your new development? GA charig What? charig GA Szczepan-Bla Does new Amiga (or what is named) will have full support for "Classic" Amiga apps running just like normal one ? I mean that I can use any current program to edit/view/etc. any file from disk (not like it is in UAE). GA [breed-away] Just like to say that We will be winding down the live chat soon.. [breed-away] so please make these your last questions... charig Announcement soon. charig GA ioni Will there be PCI, AGP, USB, etc. ports in the 'new Amiga' ? And support for them ? ga charig We will support all significant hardware standards. charig GA Reticuli Guest45753 stated earlier (whoever that was and is now :-) ): "anyone who signs up to develop will have access to full APIs"... The API's WON'T be public domain? Is this wise? The Amiga excelled because of the back bedroom developers who just decided to have a quick dabble one night and has survived years in the wilderness because anyone could program it without having to become a formal developer. Or did I misinterpret that answer? GA [breed-away] Can we make these the last questions pls.... charig You are assuming that the development kit is going to be expensive... it won't be. charig GA CraiK Q: I have got several commodore amiga computers including amiga 500, 1200, and CD-32, along with commodore 64. All i want to know is, what do you expect the future of the AMIGA world will be like (in general)? bright or dark? I just want you to make me feel comfortable about the AMIGA's future. I come from the middle east, btw just to let you know that we also DO care about the MIGGY ;) and thank you very much for your time, sirs. GA ^PaulaCIA^ CraiK Commodore are dead, Amiga is owned by Gateway 2000 for more info go to www.amiga.de ! [breed-away] eck, must update Paula!!! [breed-away] heh situation oops, I think your bot needs updating, breed «Action» [breed-away] slaps Gateway 2000 about a bit Erchin lol DanDude2 hehehe GuardianBOB heh heh yes you should. JoeSchmo MUHAHAHAHA Gaijin^ lol.. yeah :P situation These next coupla questions will be the last, sorry to all those who didn't get a chance to ask their questions charig Of course it is going to be bright. Tao's heavily in demand with so many global consumer electronics companies. [breed-away] eeek [breed-away] netsplit! DanDude2 yikes! jws72512a Will new Amiga/Tao OS System run on IBM PC box? GA charig We regard the Amiga as a fundamental part, not just of our strategy but the whole future of digital content. charig One more question. charig GA [breed-away] and what a last question it is ;) situation Okay, I've not asked a question yet, so here goes... How confident are you at taking on the industry giants, Microsoft, Intel, et al... and winning? situation GA situation hat was the last question Erchin hehe sNAK3^RP well guys thx for <maybe> given us some hope...we look forward to new things...... charig Tao is already becoming very successful and we know that the co-operation will accelerate our success, Amiga's and the community. charig Thank you and Goodnight from Reading England :) charig GA situation Thanks very much for giving us your time situation round of applause, please DanDude2 yay! :) [breed-away] I wish to thank Francis Charig, Fleecy Moss, Bill M and the other guys from Tao for turning out.. Erchin many many thanks to everyone Gaijin^ thanks :) GuardianBOB nite, Charig. :-) [breed-away] im sorry to those who didnt get there questions answered sNAK3^RP es many thx GuardianBOB anytime. we luv hearing real info about amiga and it's future. situation Thanks everyone for being so patient... we ran this whole system by hand, 'cause we didn't have time to set up proper scripts